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 [نظرية] حقيقة الأوتشيها والسنجو - الترجمة قريباً - أدق وأقوى نظرية صدرت لحد الآن

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Information and sources of my theorys


Yin and Yang basics

Symbolism and its importance

Yin
is the black side with the white dot on it and yang is the white side
with the black dot on it. The relationship between yin and yang is often
described in terms of sunlight playing over a mountain and in the
valley. Yin (literally the 'shady place' or 'north slope') is the dark
area occluded by the mountain's bulk, while yang (literally the 'sunny
place' or 'south slope') is the brightly lit portion. As the sun moves
across the sky, yin and yang gradually trade places with each other,
revealing what was obscured and obscuring what was revealed.

Yin
is characterized as slow, soft, yielding, diffuse, cold, wet, and
passive; and is associated with water, earth, the moon, femininity and
nighttime.

Yang, by contrast, is fast, hard, solid, focused, hot,
dry, and aggressive; and is associated with fire, sky, the sun,
masculinity and daytime.

Yin release(Inton)

"The
Yin Release (Inton; Viz "Dark Style") techniques, based on the
spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create
form out of nothingness." (Source).What attracted my attention was "DarkStyle" and "Form out of nothingness".

Yang release(Yoton)

The
Yang Release (陽遁, Yōton; Viz "Light Style") techniques, based on the
physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into
form.
During the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox's attack on Konoha, Minato
Namikaze used the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style to seal the Yang half of
the beast's

chakra, within Naruto Uzumaki. Whenever Naruto is in
Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, Wood Release techniques will react to the Yang
chakra's life-giving
properties and mature into full-grown trees
within a matter of seconds, either by contact or close range.This was
also shown to have the same effect on White Zetsu Army clones, whose
genetic make-up is similar to that of plants.
(Source)


The Uchiha clan

The
Uchiha clan descended from the elder of the two sons of the Sage of the
Six Paths. The elder brother inherited the Sage's "eyes", powerful
chakra and spiritual abilities.

Because of their Sharingan, the
Uchiha clan came to be known as one of the two strongest clans, the
other being the Senju clan. Madara Uchiha was particularly powerful,
and, upon attaining the Mangekyō Sharingan, he took control of the clan.


The Mangeykou Sharingans origin

Like
the various techniques used with the Sharingan, this jutsu is named
after a Shinto god. In this case, it is Izanagi, who, together with his
sister and wife Izanami, created the islands and other deities of Japan.

One
of the most famous stories about Izanagi tells the tale of how he goes
into Yomi, the Japanese underworld, to retrieve Izanami after she died
giving birth to the Shinto fire god Kagutsuchi. In Yomi, he manages to
get Izanami and they both try to leave. However Izanagi was not supposed
to look at her before they escape.Right before they reach the exit,
Izanagi looks back and sees her in a decayed form. Frightened, Izanagi
flees from Yomi and blocks the cave. Izanami curses Izanagi saying that
she will kill 1000 people per day. In response, Izanagi says that 1500
people will be born each day.

After his failed attempt to get
Izanami, he washes himself in a stream. As he cleans his left eye,
Amaterasu is born, as he cleans his right eye, Tsukuyomi is born, and as
he cleans his nose, Susanoo is born.(Source)

Amaterasu

"Amaterasu
is the highest level Fire Release technique,and according to Zetsu, one
of the most powerful ninjutsu in existence.It is said to represent the
"Material World and Light" ( Busshitsukai to Hikari), the antipode to
Tsukuyomi, a genjutsu of similar power and a fellow Mangekyo Sharingan
dojutsu. "(Source)

Tsukuyomi

"Tsukuyomi
is one of the most powerful genjutsu in existence.It is unique to the
Uchiha clan and only those with the Mangekyo Sharingan can perform it.
It is said to represent the "Spiritual World and Darkness" (Seishinkai
to Yami), the antipode to Amaterasu, a ninjutsu of similar power."(Source)

Susanoo

"Susanoo
is the third ability granted by the Mangekyo Sharingan, after the
ability in both eyes have been awakened.It creates a gigantic,

spiritual
humanoid being that surrounds and protects the user. According to
Madara Uchiha, for a Sharingan user to activate the Susanoo is a rarity.

Like
the other techniques granted by the Mangekyo Sharingan, the user's eyes
and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large
amount of their chakra. Sasuke described it as feeling pain in every
cell in his body which only grew from prolonged use.Susanoo is formed
through the materialisation of the user's chakra and as such differs in
appearance as well as colour between users. "

Susanoo in japanese mythology

Susanoo, ( Susa-no-O-no-Mikoto]; also romanized as Susano'o, Susa-no-O, and Susanowo) in Shinto is the Kami of the sea and storms.

Susano'o
is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi,
the god of the moon. All three were created from Izanagi, when he washed
his face to clean the dirtiness of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was
born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the
washing of the right eye, and Susano'o from the washing of the nose.(Source)

The Senju Clan

The Senju clan is descended from the younger of the two sons of the Sage of the Six Paths.

He was born with the "body" of the Sage, inheriting his father's strength of will and physical energy. (...)

The
Senju clan gained their fame in the era before the founding of the
hidden villages. Where other clans focused on mastering one particular
skill, the

Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to
taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan
with a thousand skills" ("sen

no te o motsu ichizoku"), which gave them their name Senju ( "a thousand skills", "a thousand hands"). (Source)


Hashirama Senju

Hashirama
was shown to be a very calm and collected person, as well as kind and
caring, with a deep sense of loyalty, great charisma and

negotiation
skill. He saw the people of Konoha as a part of his own family, and his
legacy took a firm root in the village. He was also shown to be a

very
wise and insightful man, as he passed on great teachings to Hiruzen. It
was he who first believed that all Konoha shinobi should show true
loyalty

to each other, and that a Kage must be willing to put
his life on the line for his village to set an example for all others.
This belief of his is known

as the "Will of Fire".(Source)

Tobirama Senju

From
what has been seen of Tobirama, he had pride in his abilities involving
water release techniques. He also had a sense of humour, even under
stressful situations. Like his brother, Tobirama felt a great deal of
loyalty to the village, and placed its well-being above his own.
Tobirama
was also described as being strong-spirited, and passionate.

Izanagi

Izanagi
is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the
most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.When activated, the caster
removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their
personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own
state of existence. It is normally only active for the briefest of
moments.

This technique is capable of turning injuries and even
death inflicted upon the user into mere illusions. Whenever the user
receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though
they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality;
physically real and unscathed. The technique is based on an ability the
Sage of the Six Paths had, referred to as "Creation of All Things"
(万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō). The process he used is explained to have
initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual
energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from
nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the
physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe
life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn
imagination into reality was born, known as Izanagi.

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The Theory


At first, that statement was confusing me.Since i thought all the time that Izanagi is a Genjutsu that does effect the real world in a huge manner.









Izanagi
is able to effect the reality because of the Yang energy, of Hasiramas
cells it's combined with.That should be the point that makes the
difference and makes Izanagi, clarified as a Genjutsu, able to effect
the real world.

Tobi also said that Danzo used an incomplete form of Izanagi.

I think it wasn't only incomplete because Danzo lacked the ability to control it.

What
i think is that:A perfectly performed Izanagi is one part of the Jutsu
the Rikudou Sennin used to divide the Juubi.That's why i think that
Izanagi itself is incomplete, no matter who controls it, since it's just
one part of a whole.

Right, the Jutsu i'm talking about is
Creation of All Things (Banbutsu Sozo) which Rikudou Sennin used to
divide the Ten-Tails' chakra into nine parts, which would become known
as the tailed beasts(Source).The
real control over Yoton and Inton.So in order to perform this Jutsu,
one has to be born with both elements, and with the ability to control
both elements on his own like the Rikudou Sennin.

Uchiha and Inton

Again, i'd like you this time to read:

The Uchiha clan and The Senju Clan

After doing so, you can return here:

Since
the Uchiha and Senju are said to be descendants of the Rikudou, they
both inherited his powers.But since his sons already were very
different, they most likely just inherited one element.

The
Uchiha are the said to be the descendants of the elder son who inherited
the Sages eye powers and spiritual energy.That's most likely the
Inton(Yin)power of the Rikudou Sennin.

The Uchiha with their eye
powers and strong spiritual energy, most likely inherited that affinity
for the Inton element aswell.This assumption is based on several facts.

The
Second Mizukage said that he's an Inton user in other words, a Genjutsu
user.As we all know the Uchiha with their Sharingan have a great
affinity towards Genjutsu.That lets us assume that the Uchiha, who are
known for extraordinary Genjutsu powers, must have an affinity for
Inton.

I'd like you now to reread the characteristics of Yin and Yang amd Yins main attributes, which you can find in:

Yin and Yang basics and Yin release(Inton)


Some parts, leaded me to Amaterasu(Sun God).As we all know, Amaterasu is a Mangeykou Sharingan Jutsu.

Please read now:

The Mangeykou Sharingans origin and Amaterasu

Now
you may be wondering:" If Amaterasu is a fire-release technique,so
Yoton based, how can it be used as an Mangekyou Sharingan Jutsu although
the Sharingan is Inton based?

Thats where he original Yin and Yang explanation comes into the game.


Amaterasu
is the highest level fire release.Looking at the Ying/Yang explanation,
we can see in characteristics of Yang words like"fast,fire,sun".

Fire
is related to Yang, and dark+form out of nothingness to Yin.And that's
exactly the reason why Amaterasu is the highest level of fire release.

Amaterasu
and it's attributes(Form from nothingness,black)is Yin related. But
since it's a fire techniuqe, it's a Yang based Jutsu.

What i'm saying is that Amaterasu is a Yang based(Fire) but Yin(Appearence) supported fire technique.

We
all remember the fight between Sasuke and Itachi on the roof.Both, used
a Katon Jutsu.Sasuke overpowered Itachi with his Katon, while Itachi
was preparing Amaterasu.Itachi then used Amaterasu to overpower the
Katon jutsu and make it disappear.





Looking
back at it now, we can see it as the first time we could see how a
combination of Yang and a part of Yin is superior to only one of those
elements.That was the demonstration of the Mangeykou Sharingans
powers.The Mangeykou Sharingan, grants an Uchiha access to Yang
supported eye powers.That is what makes the MS so special, the
combination of Yin/Yang.

Looking at the Ying/Yang explanation we can see in Yin related things this

"Yin is characterized as slow, soft, yielding, diffuse, cold, wet, and passive; and is associated with water, earth, the moon, femininity and nighttime."

Again there are words, i marked big, that attracted my attention.

Some of those marked words, are leading me to Tsukuyomi(Moon reader) and it's best user.

Please read now Tsukuyomi in my first post.

This explanation of Tsukuyomi contents several things related to Yin again.

The important base of Tsukuyomi is similar to Amaterau's.

Genjutsu
is Inton related.So is Tsukuyomi.BUT this time a Yin based jutsu, a
Genjutsu in this case, is Yang supported.That's the reason why it is
such an extremely strong and unique Genjutsu.

And that's why Amaterasu is called the antipode to Tsukuyomi.

"Spiritual World and Darkness" (Seishinkai to Yami)=Tsuykuyomi
"Material World and Light" ( Busshitsukai to Hikari)=Amaterasu

If
you look at the Yin/Yang explanation, you can see that more attributes
of Tsukuyomi can be found in the Yin part, and more attributes of
Amaterasu can be found in the Yang part.That's how i derived their
elemental affinity.
I'll add later more info, that helped me to derive them.

Tthe
reason why i marked "wet,water and nighttime" is because the best
Tsukuyomi user has what element affinity?Right, Itachi is a Suiton
user.And the Moon can be seen best at? Right nighttime.

There's one Genjutsu, known to be even stronger than Itachis Tsukuyomi.

Shisui's
KotoAmatsukami.And you can use it more often with what?Right, Senju
Hashirama's cells.And Why?Because again, it's a Genjutsu supported by
Yang power.

And that's why Shisui's Genjutsu was the strongest,
and in the same turn needed about 10 years to recover.To use that Jutsu,
Shisui had to gather a lot of Yang energy, so much that it took
10years.Unless he had access to Hashiramas strong Yang powered cells he
was forced to gather his own.But since Uchiha are Yin related, it took a
while.


The remaining and final MS technique of Itachi and Sasuke is Susanoo.

I think, that Susanoo is the balanced Yin/Yang power of the Uchiha.

Please read now Susanoo in my first post.

"Susanoo is the third ability granted by the Mangekyo Sharingan, after the ability in both eyes have been awakened."

That's
the point where the balance is based.If an Uchiha showed that he is
able to control and use Yin and Yang combined attacks in both eyes, then
he is allowed to use a Yin/Yang balanced Jutsu like Susanoo.

To understand it better, please read Susanoo in Japanese mythology.

Susanoo
is said to be the God of the sea and storm.To show you what i mean i
quote Yin/Yang characteristics again and mark the things important for
this:


Yin is characterized as slow, soft, yielding, diffuse, cold, wet, and passive; and is associated with water, earth,the moon, femininity and nighttime.

Yang, by contrast, is fast, hard, solid, focused, hot, dry, and aggressive; and is associated with fire, sky, the sun, masculinity and daytime.

As
we can see, attributes of Susanoo(God of the sea and storm,fast
attacks,solid defense etc.), can be found in both Yin and Yang
characteristics.

And Susanoo is said to be born with Izanagi washing it's nose.Which is in most cases the center of a human face.

Which let us assume that Susanoo is a Yin/Yang balanced MS Jutsu.

Mangekyou Sharingans weakness

Since
we all know now that the Sharingan eye is Yin based, it's possible that
if the Uchiha are using Yang related Jutsu with their MS eyes, the Yang
part(Life force) of their eyes can't recover which is causing the
slowly occurring blindness.

Since Tsukuyomi contains more of the Inton(Spritual) element, it causes a non visible pain to it's user.

Amaterasu on the other hand contains more of the Yoton(Physical) element which causes visible pain and makes the eye bleed.

Susanoo,
is a balanced Yin/Yang MS Jutsu.While using it, Sasuke mentioned that
it feels like every cell in his body hurts.Since Susanoo needs more Yang
power to balance with the Yin part, it uses the body's Yang resources,
because a Yin related Sharingan can't provide such an huge amount of
Yang energy.

Izanagi

Many people claimed, that Uchiha can use Izanagi without Senju cells since it's called an Uchiha Kinjutsu.

But why?As Tobi said to use it, you need both powers.Why is it just forbidden among the Uchiha if Senju are playing a huge role?

At
first it could be called a Uchiha Kinjutsu because it makes the eye
loosing it's light.But There're no handicaps known yet how that would
effect a Senju.So it's possible that it just costs a huge amount of
Chakra for those whose body is not from the Uchiha.(Kakashi f.e.)

But i think theres more.

As i said before i think Izanagi is one part of Creation of All Things (Banbutsu Sozo).

But why and what is the other part?

Izanagi
uses the Yin based Sharingan to cast a Genjutsu on oneself and then
make use of the Yang energy of Senju cells to make it reality.Since that
would combine Yin/Yang it is just like Banbutsu Sozo.

BUT, since
the user we've seen so far used an Uchiha body as a basis and then
added Hashirama cells to it it can't be completed since Yin is still the
basis.So they are combined but not balanced.That's why it can only be
cast on oneself for protection.

Hypothesis 1 Senju could've had access to the other half.

Izanami

If
a Senju would implant a Sharingan, it is possible he could use
Izanami.Since here the basis is a Senju body(Yang) and a Yin based
Sharingan is added, we have the same situiation, just that Yin and Yang
changed places.Now they are again combined but not balanced.

And
because of this change of relations, i think they have access to Izanami
which must be the ultimate Genjutsu to cast on another person for destruction.

Hypothesis 2 An EMS user could've access to other half.

Again, Izanami

But to understand better, I'll explain something else first.

First, i want to tell you,

Why an EMS never looses it's light

I
assume that the eyes of two brother are merged, and with it, their Yang
energy supply.It is possible that since he now has access to a second
pair of eyes with a Yang source they can balance.

The black parts of a Sharingan, represent the Yin.And the red parts represent the Yang.

Now you may be wondering, the base Sharingan is mainly red, so why is it still Yin based?

The
red in the Sharingan represent it's life force(Eyesight).The black
tomoe, represents the amount of spiritual energy that is used.

Why do i think that?Look here:







When Itachi uses Amaterasu(Fire release=Yang based), the red pupil grows, since it has to provide Yang energy to use it.

But

When
Itachi uses Tsukuyomi(Genjutsu=Yin based) the connected black tomoe are
growing since it has to prvide now the Yin energy to perform it.

The Lifeforce and eyesight

A base Sharingan has 3 not connected tomoe.Every MS design known, connects the black tomoe and with it, it separates the red Yang in several parts from the pupil.





With
doing so, the Yin part grows with the black tomoe connecting, but the
red Yang part gets cornered.That could be an indicator that now, with
using MS, the Yang source(Eyesight) is limited.

How does two pairs of MS eyes merging change that?

These are the known EMS designs:





And
there is one change, we can find in both eyes.As you can see the black
Yin parts of the brothers merge in a way that they're are building a
bridge so the pupil and tomoe, are connected through the red Yang part
again.

And that's whats making the difference.The base Sharingan and the EMS share this one attribute.

The black tomoe and the pupil, are connected through the red Yang part again.




This is , what could be an indicator for the never fading eyesight.

Okay, and now back to Izanami:

Hypothesis 2(Credit goes to ovanz postfor the idea)

An EMS user could have access to other half.

Again, Izanami

With
two pairs of MS eyes merged, it is possible that the Yin/Yang relation
is brought to another level, so that an EMS user has access to Izanami.

Now
the Yin/Yang source is maybe still not balanced, but now the amount of
the Yin/Yang source of 2 merged MS eyes is far greater, and the Yang
source is able to regenerate itself.

That could be the conditions to use Izanami.

Looking back at the Mangekyou Sharingan origin, you can find this line:

"Izanagi was not supposed to look at her before they escape."

This line could be a hint, why Izanagi can only be cast on oneself.

But
i wasn't able to derive Izanamis possible powers or attributes from
this.If you want to, you can post some ideas what Izanami could be.I'll
add it then.

The only thing i could assume is that is a counter to Izanagi and a Genjutsu used on another person to cause destruction.

Addition to Sasukes MS:

Sasukes Enton Kagutsuchi

Sasuke
is able to control Amaterasu's flames with his right eye.The right eye
is his Tsukuyomi eye.As we know Tsukuyomi is a Yin based but Yang
supported Genjutsu.Althoguh, Sasuke has not the same mastery as Itachi
it remains the same Jutsu.

It is possible that, by using the Yin
power of that eye, Sasuke is able to manipulate it's shape, since we now
Yin is related to the "form"(Shape).

Well, that's the end of my theory-mania thread.For now

I also have an idea about the mechanism of KageBunshin and it's relation to Yin/Yang.So if you want to i'll post it too.


This part is about the Senju clan.So i'd like you to read:

The Senju Clan

Hashirama Senju

Tobirama Senju

If you read them we can go to:

Senju and Yoton

The Senju are said to be descendants of the younger son of Rikudou.

As you can see, the Senju and the younger son have the same relationship as the Uchiha and the elder son.

With
the elder son who inherited the Yin power, there's is only the Yang
part left which the younger son and the Senju have inerhited.

Again
i'm using the Yin/Yang explanation to underline my statements.I will
mark the parts that now are important for the Senju and Yoton
relationship.

Yin is characterized as slow, soft, yielding, diffuse, cold, wet, and passive; and is associated with water, earth, the moon,
femininity and nighttime.

Yang, by contrast, is fast, hard, solid, focused, hot, dry, and aggressive; and is associated with fire, sky, the sun,
masculinity and daytime.



The
words i marked are supporting the idea of Senju being Yang related, and
as well they're supporting the idea that the Senju have a Yin relation.

Fitting Yin characteristics are:"Soft,water and earth"

Please read now Hashirama Senju and Tobirama Senju again.

The properties of these brothers are something, we could consider as a "Soft" personality.

But what made Hashirama so famous?
Right, it was the KekkeiGenkai he possesed.
His Mokuton Jutsu.
And as we all know it's combination of what elements?

Right, earth and water.Looking at Yin characteristics, these words are related to Yin.

Looking at the desciption of his brother:

We can again find words like "Water-release","Passionate" and had a sense of humor.That all fits to their soft and kind personality.

The fitting Yang words i marked are:"Fast,hard,solid and fire"


The
Yang chakra of the Kyuubi, causes that if Mokuton trees are near, they
begin to grow.Which lets us assume that Mokuton jutsu is using Yang
energy as a source.

When
Naruto enters the KyuubiChakraMode he becomes insanely fast as we all
know.That's most likely, because of his access to pure Yang
chakra=("Fast")

The Senju are known for a strong body and life
force.They are known for huge amounts of chakra, had a great stamina,
and a durable ("Hard,Solid") body, since even close relatives
(Uzumaki)where best suited to become Jinchuuriki.

The last word relating to Yang is "Fire".
This
is what at first actually doesn't fit.We don't know of any Senju that
used Katon Jutsu.And since they dont have any other special powers like
Doujutsu powers, what is it that makes "fire" connect to the Senju?

If you forgot by know what parts are now important of Hashiramas personality, i'll help you remember and mark that part:


It
was he who first believed that all Konoha shinobi should show true
loyalty to each other, and that a Kage must be willing to put his life
on the line for his village to set an example for all others. This
belief of his is known as the "Will of Fire".
(Source)


Right, the only thing that connects the Senju and fire is, their will!

That's whats protecting Konoha all the time, that is what Naruto and many other Konoha Shinobi inherited.Their "Will of Fire".

And this is exactly a reason why the Senju where known as the "Clan
of thousand skills".

Their
Will(Spirit) was fire, the Jutsu they used with their strong Yang
chakra where elements like water and earth related to the Yin.They were
masters
in Tai,Nin and Genjutsu, because their will of fire and their Yang powered body, could focus on this 3 Shinobi techniques.


I have to admit that it contains far feteched ideas.But that is mostly, what makes it a theory
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